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« on: August 04, 2008, 10:18:15 PM »

This may be a regional thing but "beaner" has been written and spoken for a good number of years. There are tons of references, but I will only cite several here.

Basically, it's used two ways:

one, in baseball,

e.g. -- shown here:

 http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/beaner

and, as a kind of detrimental moniker for Mexicans --

The word is referenced in various other sources that you all can find readily (too unkind to print here) such as urban dictionary, if you dare look it up here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beaners


-- and, wiktionary gives similar meanings, as well as these other alternatives:

beaner (plural beaners)

   1. (US, slang, dated) a superior or admirable person; something excellent
          * , Forrest Edwin Long and Philip Westcot Lawrence Cox, The Clearing House, page 527, 

                Gee, that would be a beaner of a sign for education

          * , Martha Ostenso, The Sunset Tree, Dodd, Mead, page 106, 

                Pride, indeed, Esther thought that was a beaner! There was more purse than pride in Mayme's repentant heart

In other words, I believe it IS a word.



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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 10:22:22 PM »

I did dare look it up, threeb and it's a most unpleasant word indeed!  Never heard of it before and don't want to hear it again!!  Demon
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 10:26:48 PM »

Which is exactly why I put the warning ... did not want to be accused of creating a firestorm ... however, the word is used otherwise in sports, so cannot be ignored.

I do believe, also, that it has been used in Boston (often called Beantown) for its residents as well.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 10:53:19 PM »

Except for the baseball usage, I hadn't heard the term, but probably that's because I live in the Northeast, where our Hispanic population is more mixed - Puerto Rican, South American, and Central American in addition to Mexican.  Or maybe I just don't associate with people who tend to use ethnic slurs - so P.C.

I found an interesting site giving multiple views of the word in the (possibly) offensive sense:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071229225915AABWV4w

For people who don't want to look at the blatantly offensive site Threeb found, this is more balanced.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2008, 11:08:21 PM »

Live and learn! I have never heard of beaner in any other context except baseball.
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2008, 09:32:52 PM »

Have you had time to consider this one yet, Alan? No hurry ... really!  Demon Haven't heard from you lately -- are you okay? Or am I speaking out of turn? -- again!
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2008, 10:40:06 PM »

.... and the answer is ....?
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 07:41:19 AM »

And just to further confuse the issue, Querty just told me that it's slang for a piece of equipment used in rock climbing:

Talk:beaner - Wiktionary
Just a note, " 'beaner" [SIC] in Rock/Mountain climbing is short for carabiner. The spelling is different, but I'm not sure how often it is actually spelled ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Talk:beaner - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2008, 11:03:47 AM »

I just LOVE it when issues get clouded! More the merrier, I say!  Demon
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2008, 05:31:03 PM »

As evidenced by the links you supply Threeb, beaner is present, with various meanings, in Wiktionary, the Urban Dictionary and WordNet. It's also listed in various slang dictionaries. However, I couldn't find it in any standard dictionary edited by lexicographers, which counts against it.

What counts in its favour, and eventually persuaded me to accept it, is the fact that it has so many meanings.

As a derogatory term for a Mexican, it seems to be better known in some parts of the US than others. An article in a Michigan student newspaper commenting on plans for a coffee chain to change its name from "Beaners", argues that "the racial slur 'beaner' is simply much more prevalent in California and on the West Coast than it is here in the Midwest". And a book in Google books feels it necessary to define the word: "so-called beaner raids, beaner being a derogatory term for Mexicans" (Operation Gatekeeper by Joseph Nevins, 2002).

The baseball usage seems to be much rarer than beanball (which is already a Chi word). Google gave me 851 hits for the quoted phrase "throw a beanball", whereas "throw a beaner" got only four.

Apart from the meanings already mentioned, I found a line in the film script for Donnie Brasco that implies beaner can mean a hundred dollar bill: "EMPTIES his wallet. Lefty takes it, folds it into a ROLL. Puts the hundred on the outside... LEFTY Don't be carrying your money in a wallet no more. Wiseguy got his money in a roll, like this. Beaner on the outside." But I couldn't find anything much to support that usage, so it must be a very specialised piece of underworld cant, if not a nonce word for the movie.

Also in the highly specialist zone, it seems a train of the B.N.S.F. railroad can be called a beaner. These obscure usages don't really count for anything, but I hate to waste the fruits of my researches.

I think the word is a borderline case, but I will allow it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2008, 06:33:05 PM »

ooh, new photo viral. you look very happy  Smiley note no upper case letters. get used to it guys, i've wrecked my wrist and have only one operational typer hand for the time being.  Sad Cry  sorry.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 10:37:55 PM »

Thanks, Alan (you handsome thing!) for such meticulous research, finally bringing this word "across the border"  Wink, and into the realm of acceptable words!

So sorry to hear about your injury, bobbi.  Cry

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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2008, 01:09:43 AM »

Thanks Alan for all the research - and I like the new picture too!
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2008, 06:34:19 AM »

Nice piccy Viral....

What have you been up to now bobbi.....Huh?
You have been in the wars this year mate....
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